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    I think you shold not announce anything at all if you are not hundred percent sure, and have a contract that forces all parts to keep the announcement. In Sweden what has been done here is illegal. Its called "false advertising" or "false marketing"or "misleading advertising". I bought my hydra 1 and a half months ago just because i read in articles popping up everywhere that it had steam integration. When i got it i found out it was half a month left until integration, but i didnt mind cause it was broken. I just hoped my rma would give me a new one before integration.
    One week ago i got a new one and was waiting for the integration at the end of this month. Now i find out this.

    This date shifting is really damaging. There is no indication that it will actually arrive, because the combo of sixsense and valve have lost credibility. Anyhow all these advertising or articles made me, and others, by this product. Unsatisfied and dissapointed.
    It is no less probable it ends like stalker 2. Valve might think it doesnt seem profitable enough a leave sixsense support altogether.

    I know i can use the hydra for a lot of games already, and that it have a great value by itself. But that is not the point. I am a user that have enough patience for problem solving to have a pc instead of a game console, but i fully understand the user that want everything to work out of the box. This "working out of the box" is what valve sells with steam (or have ambition to sell). I have full understanding for the persons who dont want the hydra without a really noob friendly gui and support, and where steam integration is a big reason for buying it
    I myself really dont like to customise the controls by script.

    U might say that you (valve, razer and sixsense) didnt make the advertising and its just sad that the reporters doing the articles used phrasing that could give the wrong impression when read in haste. But you have an at least moral responsibility to correct information given to the public that gives the wrong impression, specially when this information gets more units sold for you, and more stocks sold. You should make it clear to the public, to the pontential buyers, that the "hydra might get steam integration at some point in the future". Nothing else. Nothing that tricks people into buying another thing than what they wanted to buy.

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    yo sixense team, please add something on the left 4 dead 2 update on friday, it so stupid updates, its just a mutation change, no bug fixes, why don't you guys add a sixense beta for left 4 dead 2, just a the free aim, no free swinging melee, please. Just request valve the update. i just hate waiting. dammit valve time, actually, sixense time. -_-

    This is just a suggestion
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    Speaking personally, I know how you guys feel, there's nothing worse than having a date pushed multiple times that you're patiently waiting for.

    I'll say however, that there is no reason to fear that support is being pulled out and if anything is getting in the way of making these deadlines it's the fact that Sixense is working on so many projects at once, which we'll be very excited to share with you when they're ready.

    Thanks again for everyones patience and support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by axelbernadotte View Post
    I think you shold not announce anything at all if you are not hundred percent sure, and have a contract that forces all parts to keep the announcement. In Sweden what has been done here is illegal. Its called "false advertising" or "false marketing"or "misleading advertising". I bought my hydra 1 and a half months ago just because i read in articles popping up everywhere that it had steam integration. When i got it i found out it was half a month left until integration, but i didnt mind cause it was broken. I just hoped my rma would give me a new one before integration.
    One week ago i got a new one and was waiting for the integration at the end of this month. Now i find out this.

    This date shifting is really damaging. There is no indication that it will actually arrive, because the combo of sixsense and valve have lost credibility. Anyhow all these advertising or articles made me, and others, by this product. Unsatisfied and dissapointed.
    It is no less probable it ends like stalker 2. Valve might think it doesnt seem profitable enough a leave sixsense support altogether.

    I know i can use the hydra for a lot of games already, and that it have a great value by itself. But that is not the point. I am a user that have enough patience for problem solving to have a pc instead of a game console, but i fully understand the user that want everything to work out of the box. This "working out of the box" is what valve sells with steam (or have ambition to sell). I have full understanding for the persons who dont want the hydra without a really noob friendly gui and support, and where steam integration is a big reason for buying it
    I myself really dont like to customise the controls by script.

    U might say that you (valve, razer and sixsense) didnt make the advertising and its just sad that the reporters doing the articles used phrasing that could give the wrong impression when read in haste. But you have an at least moral responsibility to correct information given to the public that gives the wrong impression, specially when this information gets more units sold for you, and more stocks sold. You should make it clear to the public, to the pontential buyers, that the "hydra might get steam integration at some point in the future". Nothing else. Nothing that tricks people into buying another thing than what they wanted to buy.

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    Axel Bernadotte
    This. Take note of this.

    Also, it doesn't make any sense how this has to go through months of QA, even though you released the TF2 integration with little to none of this. This, combined with Axel's reason, is why I hate you guys.

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    Anyone can burn a house down, but only those with the right skill and dedication can build one

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    Soldier, you're entitled to your opinion. Axel's statement was constructive and thought out. If you have an opinion to state there are constructive ways to say it.

    I agree that it's a shame that so many times hardware is sold without the software to back it up, but it's also rare to find decent support these days when we do have a software / hardware problem. It's a shame you don't feel your investment has been fruitful, but there's plenty of support here on this forum if / when you need it.

    EDIT: +1 Maxbob!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSoldier View Post
    This. Take note of this.

    Also, it doesn't make any sense how this has to go through months of QA, even though you released the TF2 integration with little to none of this. This, combined with Axel's reason, is why I hate you guys.
    Yeah the TF2 intergration is a beta still, make it for left 4 dead 2. (

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    Wow, you guys put out a press release with this title (emphasis mine): "LEFT 4 DEAD 2, HALF-LIFE 2, AND TEAM FORTRESS 2 NOW SUPPORT
    FULL MOTION PLAY WITH THE RAZER HYDRA"

    As it turns out, "now" should have been "soon" and "soon" has turned into "some time later in the year". However that happened, what absolutely should not have is to put out a factually incorrect press release! I'm slightly surprised that there has not been an immediate follow-up apologizing for the mistake in wording.

    Just my 2 cents.

    PS. I don't actually want to give you guys more flak than you already have to take for this f-up, whoever might be at fault. I think your product is great. I just thought I'd point out that your only fault currently, in my view, is that you've had that press release out there for two months without a follow-up. I mean, Valve QA might be out of your hands. Surely correcting your own press releases isn't...

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    Quote Originally Posted by siptheriver View Post
    Sure. That was posted in June 2011, it's now APRIL 2012, still not here.

    Its now DEC 09 2012 and still no news

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    Quote Originally Posted by owneadorcl View Post
    Its now DEC 09 2012 and still no news

    -sigh- idk man, this is a very very long wait. i bet their all focus on their player station things.
    http://steamcommunity.com/id/iHotty/
    Add me if you want to play some hydra games together!

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